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专家解读 坦克世界苏联坦克知识第二期

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Q: Is there an SU-26 in a museum somewhere (either a version as in game or some modded version)?

A: All SU-26es have been lost in battle by 1944.

Q:有哪个博物馆有SU-26展出吗(不管是游戏内的版本还是其他改版)?

A:所有SU-26都在1944年的一场战役中被摧毁了。

Q: Was there a Polish tank called 53 TP ? I heard somewhere that this tank has 40km/h, 130mm sloped armor and 120mm gun, it seems to be fake but that's why I asked.

A: There is a project from 1939 for a heavy Polish tank that mostly matches these characteristics: 130 mm front armour, a 120 mm gun, but projected speed was 25 kph. Yuri Pasholok posted some scans (in Polish), which you can read here.

Q:波兰有一种叫53 TP的坦克,对吗?我听说这辆车可以跑到40km/h,有130mm的倾斜装甲和120mm炮,但是我觉得是假的。

A:1939年起,波兰确实有一个重型坦克计划,和你说的这些特征很相符:130mm前装甲、120mm炮,但是设计极速只有25km/h。

Q: Was there T-54 /T-55 project with a 122 mm M-62 gun?

A: Not that I am aware of. The firepower of modernized T-55 tanks is increased using ATGMs. The T-55M6 modification upgraded the tank to the T-72B turret, along with its smoothbore 125 mm gun.

Q:T-54/T-55有加装122mm M-62的计划吗?

A:我不太关注这块。现代化的T-55坦克的火力通过反坦克火箭弹获得了增强,T-55M6的改版安装了T-72B炮塔,以及125mm滑膛炮。

Q: The in-game lend-lease Valentine and Matilda both have unique Soviet guns, not their original ones. According to the wiki, this did happen, but there are not much details.

Were they only prototypes?

Did they see service?

Did they try other guns?

Did they change other parts of these tanks (engine, tracks, etc.)?

Q:游戏中,通过租借法案获得的瓦伦丁和马蒂尔达都装有特别的苏联主炮,而不是它们的原装炮。根据维基百科所说,确有此事,但是没有记载更多细节。

这些炮都只是原型炮吗?

它们参战过吗?

苏联人还试过其他炮吗?

除了炮以外,他们还改动过这些车辆的其他零件(发动机、履带之类)吗?

A: The first thing the Soviets noticed with the Matilda was that the tracks had exceptionally poor traction. Commonly, spurs were welded on, to increase off-road performance.

As for the gun, a 1942 evaluation of the Matilda to determine if the Soviets should keep buying them does remark that the gun is barely better than the 45 mm gun installed on light tanks, and that someone is looking into installing the superior 76.2 mm Model 1941 tank gun (F-34) to equate it with the KV in terms of firepower. That someone was no other than Grabin's own construction bureau, which developed a ZiS-5 gun and a coaxial DT machine gun combo for the Matilda, indexed ZiS-96 or F-96. It was decided that all Matildas be armed with these new guns, but it is hard to say how many actually were. People's Commissar of Tank Production wrote to the People's Commisar of Armament in March of 1942:

A:苏联人发现马蒂尔达的第一个问题在于履带的抓地力异常之差,所以通常都加装了履带齿,以提高地形的适应性。

至于主炮,在1942年的一次关于是否继续购买马蒂尔达的评估中,苏联人发现它的主炮性能基本上只是跟安装在轻坦上的45mm炮差不多,于是有人尝试在它上面安装更优秀的76.2mm 1941型(F-34)火炮,以使其获得跟KV差不多等级的火力。格拉宾则自己为其设计了ZiS-5火炮以及配套的同轴机枪,档案编号为ZiS-96或者 F-96。当局决定所有马蒂尔达都改用这门新炮,但是很难说具体数量上有多少。分管坦克生产的人民委员曾在1942年致信给分管军备的人民委员


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"I remind you that factory #9 is going to throw off the re-armament of Matilda tanks. Instead of the planned 120 guns, they only produced 47. Meanwhile, they over-fulfilled their quota of ZiS-5 guns for the KV tank, which we have plenty of. The re-armament of Matilda tanks should be your problem #1. Take decisive action to correct this production for the 2nd quarter and make up the deficiency for the 1st quarter."

“我提醒你,9号工厂打算放弃为马蒂尔达重新安装新炮的工程,计划中应该生产120门炮,但是他们只造了47门。目前,它们生产了太多用于KV的 ZiS-5炮,而我们还有多余的库存。马蒂尔达重新安装新炮应该是你们的首要任务。请做出有效的决定以便在第二季度更正你们的生产计划,以弥补第一季度的缺失。”

It is not known if any Matildas were armed with ZiS-96 guns at all, since, starting with Spring 1942, the USSR started receiving Matilda CS infantry support tanks, which at least had satisfactory HE shells, unlike the 2-pounder gun. In Spring of 1943, Matilda tanks were no longer ordered by the USSR at all.

The Valentine received a similar treatment. The lack of HE shells for the 2-pounder gun made it ineffective in its infantry support role. The solution to this was a combination of a 45 mm gun and DT machine gun, named ZiS-95. ZiS-95 was installed on one Valentine in December of 1941, but that was it. Much like the Matilda CS howitzer, the Valentine eventually received a 57 mm 6-pounder gun, which was very effective against enemy tanks, to the level that the 45 mm couldn't dream of.

The narrow tracks of the Valentine were also insufficient for winter weather, and received spurs like the Matilda.

尚不知晓是否真的有马蒂尔达安装了ZiS-96炮,毕竟,从1942年春天开始,苏联开始接收马蒂尔达CS步兵支援坦克,这辆车至少有令人满意的HE炮弹,而不像它前任的2磅炮。1943年春天,苏联已经停止订购马蒂尔达了。

瓦伦丁的境遇也差不多。由于缺乏2磅炮的HE炮弹,它在进行步兵支援时的效果大打折扣。对此的解决方案是安装45mm炮和DT机枪,这个组合名叫 ZiS-95。ZiS-95曾于1941年12月安装在瓦伦丁上,但也仅限于此。和马蒂尔达CS榴弹炮类似,瓦伦丁最终获得了一门对敌方坦克很有效的 57mm 6磅炮,这是45mm炮所望尘莫及的。

瓦伦丁的窄履带在冬天时也非常不够用,所以像马蒂尔达一样加装了履带齿。

Q: How many turrets does Tank Grote have?

A: Tank Grote had one rotating turret, the top one with the 37 mm AA gun. The 76.2 mm gun was not in a rotating turret.

Edit: I realized that you may have meant the heavy Grote tank. That monstrosity came in 3 or 6 turret variants. Obviously none were ever built.

Q:格罗特坦克有几个炮塔?

A:有两个变种,一种3个一种6个。显然这种怪兽从来没有造出来过。

#格罗特坦克(TG-5或T-42),100吨的超重型坦克,安装107mm主炮

Q: Was there gun called 122 mm M-62-C2 ? (used in WoT in SU-122-54)

A: Yes, a non-stabilized version of the M-62 gun was built to replace the D-49 gun in the SU-122-54.

Q:历史上存在名叫122mm M-62-C2的炮吗(游戏中SU-122-54用的炮)?

A:是的,有一款没有安装稳定器的M-62曾经被用于替换SU-122-54上的D-49炮。

Q: Is the current 107 mm top gun on the KV-4 close to reality?

A: Let's take a look at Soviet 107 mm guns. The top gun is the "107 mm high power gun". It gets a pretty impressive 188 mm of penetration at 1000 meters, against armour sloped at 30 degrees. Since WoT measures penetration against flat armour at 100 meters, I'm going to have to do some approximations.

The ZiS-6 gun in game gets 167 mm of penetration. The ZiS-6 in that document gets 115 mm of penetration. Assuming the ratios hold, the longer gun in WoT should have about 273 mm of penetration. The in-game gun only has 227 mm of penetration. Russian Bias, why have you abandoned me!?

Q:现在游戏中的KV-4的107mm顶级炮和现实中的数据接近吗?

A:让我们来看看苏联的107mm炮。顶级炮是“107mm高能炮”,能在1000米开外击穿30度倾斜的188mm的装甲,令人印象深刻。坦克世界的穿深是在100米处击穿垂直装甲的数据,因此需要做一些估算。

游戏中的ZiS-6炮的穿深是167mm,而档案上记载的是115mm。按照这一比率,长107在游戏里会有273mm穿深,而游戏里的只有227mm。亲爹定律,你为何弃我而去?

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